Ibn Abī Ḥātim said, quoting his father: "I do not know of anyone who narrated this ḥadīth other than Hāshim ibn al-Barīd." I said: He is trustworthy, and it does not harm him that he was accused of Shīʿism. For this reason, al-Būṣīrī said in "al-Zawāʾid" (p. 27/2): "This isnād is ḥasan." I said: and it appears from the ḥadīth that he (ṣallá Allāhu ʿalayhi wa-sallam) said that while urinating, which provides evidence for the permissibility of speaking while in the lavatory. The ḥadīth that states Allāh detests this, although its isnād is not authentic, is not explicit in this regard, as it is worded: "Two should not converse while relieving themselves, looking at each other's private parts, for Allāh detests that." This text only indicates the prohibition of this situation, which is conversing while looking at the private parts. It does not imply that conversing alone—even if it is inherently distasteful—is something Allāh, the Blessed and Exalted, detests. Rather, this requires evidence to necessitate its prohibition, which we have not found, unlike the prohibition of looking at the private parts, which is established in several ḥadīths. Then I found a corroborating ḥadīth from Ibn ʿUmar with similar wording. It was recorded by Ibn al-Jārūd in "al-Muntaqá" (27-28), and its isnād is also ḥasan. Then I saw it in "Fawāʾid ʿAbd al-Bāqī ibn Qāniʿ" (160/1-2), where it was recorded through two chains from Nāfiʿ from Ibn ʿUmar, and their narrators are well-known and trustworthy. However, his teacher in the first chain, Muḥammad ibn ʿUthmān ibn Abī Shaybah, has some discussion about him, and his teacher in the other chain, Muḥammad ibn ʿAnbasah ibn Laqīṭ al-Ḍabbī, was mentioned by al-Khaṭīb (3/139) who narrated this ḥadīth from Ibn Qāniʿ through him, without mentioning any criticism or endorsement. However, he is corroborated by Ibn al-Jārūd, so the ḥadīth is authentic.