and it can be said: perhaps Ibn ʿAdī included it in the biography of Ibn Abī Rawād because the ḥadīth is known through him, as it has been narrated from him by others besides these two. Ibn Abī Ḥātim said in "al-ʿIlal" (2/331): "Abū Zurʿah was asked about a ḥadīth narrated by Abū Taqī, who said: Baqiyyah told me: ʿAbd al-ʿAzīz ibn Abī Rawād told me it... and he mentioned it with the wording: (Do not initiate speech before the greeting of peace; whoever initiates speech before the greeting of peace, do not respond to him). Abū Zurʿah said: This ḥadīth has no basis; Baqiyyah did not hear this ḥadīth from ʿAbd al-ʿAzīz, it is only from the people of Ḥimṣ, and the people of Ḥimṣ do not distinguish this." I said: Abū Taqī's name is Hishām ibn ʿAbd al-Malik, and it was from his route that Abū Nuʿaym included it in "al-Ḥilyah" (8/199) and said: "It is rare from the ḥadīth of ʿAbd al-ʿAzīz; we only wrote it from the ḥadīth of Baqiyyah." I said: and he did not explicitly state hearing in his narration, but it was explicitly stated in another narration, as Ibn al-Sunnī said in "ʿAmal al-Yawm wa-al-Laylah" (210): ʿAbbās ibn Aḥmad al-Ḥimṣī informed us: Kathīr ibn ʿUbayd narrated to us: Baqiyyah ibn al-Walīd narrated to us: Ibn Abī Rawād narrated it in abbreviated form with the wording: "Whoever initiates speech before the greeting of peace, do not respond to him." and Kathīr ibn ʿUbayd is a trustworthy Ḥimṣī, and it is difficult to be convinced that merely being from Ḥimṣ—while being trustworthy—does not distinguish between Baqiyyah's saying "from" and his saying "narrated to us"! Therefore, I tend to consider the ḥadīth with this isnād as ḥasan at the very least. and ʿAbbās ibn Aḥmad al-Ḥimṣī has a biography in "Tārīkh Ibn ʿAsākir" (8/444/2) and no criticism or commendation was mentioned about him, but a group narrated from him. and it has been narrated through other routes from Nāfiʿ with it, but they are weak. al-Ṭabarānī included it in "al-Awsaṭ" from the route of Hārūn ibn Muḥammad Abū al-Ṭayyib from ʿAbd Allāh al-ʿUmrī from him. al-Haythamī said (8/32): "Hārūn ibn Muḥammad is a liar."